i think he will be a problem. >> i want to say something about hillary clinton. you see how great her presence has been, what a successful secretary of state she has been. any time conservatives can, they want to take a knife to her throat, and guess what? she always turns it back on them. she has emerged as an incredible force. i hope she does what is best for her and us. >> the next chapter of her life is entitled, iowa and new hampshire. >> let me ask you about ed koch, former mayor of new york. he died this weekend. >> and maverick, a good mayor, a quintessential new yorker, a great american story. and we will miss him. >> shy, bashful -- no, no. that is the wrong guy. [laughter] combative. 21 times in 26 years he went to the voters to ask how he was doing. he was made to the mayor of new york. he ran for governor of the state and lost to mario cuomo. >> he was a jewish laguardia. >> america has its characters of different regions and at the cities. he was, in that sense, a quintessential american character. >> colby? >> colorful. >> i was interviewing him on